Duncan Smith said people claiming benefits (most of em are in work btw) need to learn how to manage their finances and appreciate the value of money in order to get out of poverty
How fucking offensive
Poverty isn’t a choice, a result of laziness ffs it’s a result of the…
Anonymous said: So, not even a week after the ref and already oil is NOT going to run out, NHS IS at risk, plans to cut Scotland's public funds, possibility of war. I feel sick.
The only problem is the words ‘I told you so’ will fall on deaf ears. Your diehard labour types chuckling because they think their party is going to grow strong and because they ‘beat the SNP’ and your Tory types who are so busy trying to protect their money they don’t realise their country is going down the shitter.
Anonymous said: The Unionists seem to be triumphalist. They were doubtful that they'd win and the stunts they pulled were desperate. Now they just want to forget and bury the Scottish question and get back to business-as-usual. Unfortunately for them, business-as-usual just reminds Scots of why they ever considered (and just under half voted for) leaving the UK behind.
The problem is that there is 1.6 million people plus who refuse to go back to business as usual.
No voters realise they’ve been shafted and are fighting back.
UK Labour have just tweeted for people to join them in order to save the NHS.
Can you all let that sink in for a moment. These absolute fuckers lied to everyone in Scotland. The disabled, the frail, the vulnerable.
Now they have the audacity to ask them to protect the NHS when before it was all ‘nationalist scaremongering.’
broketillimdead said: How can we get another referendum?! We need to be independent. Britain is a complete joke
An excellent question. I feel that this is best answered by Irvine Welsh in his piece for the Guardian.
"The vibrant and euphoric yes movement, which, during the debate, evolved from a small base to come within a whisker of a sensational victory, will be massively disappointed that they didn’t manage to get it done.
They will have to cool their ardour a while longer, although anybody believing they’ll stop now is indulging in wishful thinking. Why would they? The process and the subsequent debate, which they won handsomely, took support for independence from around 30% to 45% and heading north. It’s now established as the compelling narrative of the post-devolution generation, while no dominates only in a declining constituency of elderly voters. Yes may have lost this battle, but the war is being won.
Going negative was the only option.
The referendum was a disaster for Cameron personally, who almost lost the union. The Tories, with enough self-awareness to realise how detested they are in Scotland, stood aside to let Labour run the show on the basis they could deliver a convincing no vote. But for Labour, the outcome was at least as bad; when the dust settles they will be seen, probably on both sides of the border, to have used their power and influence against the aspiration towards democracy. Labour voters caught this ugly whiff, the number of them supporting independence doubling in a month from 17% to 35%. In the mid-term, the leadership may have simply acted as recruiting sergeants for the SNP.
As Cameron was at first absent and uninterested, then finally fearful, so Miliband looked just as ineffective and totally lost during this campaign. He became a figure of contempt in Scotland: Labour leaders have generally needed a period in office in order to achieve that distinction.
The referendum galvanised and excited Scots in a way that no UK-wide election has done. Like it or not, unless they come up with a winning devo max settlement, every general election in Scotland will now be dominated by the independence issue.
The yes movement hit such heights because the UK state was seen as failed; antiquated, hierarchical, centralist, discriminatory, out of touch and acting against the people. This election will have done nothing to diminish that impression. Against this shabbiness the Scots struck a blow for democracy, with an unprecedented 97% voter registration for an election the establishment wearily declared nobody wanted. It turns out that it was the only one people wanted. Whether this Scottish assertiveness kickstarts an unlikely UK-wide reform (unwanted in most of the English regions); or wearies southerners and precipitates a reaction to get rid of them; or the Scots, through the ballot box at general elections, decide to go the whole hog of their own accord; the old imperialist-based union is bust.
This country, when it was ever known on the global stage under the union, was associated with tragedy, in terrible events like Lockerbie and Dunblane; it’s now synonymous with real people power. Forget Bannockburn or the Scottish Enlightenment, the Scots have just reinvented and re-established the idea of true democracy. This – one more – glorious failure might also, paradoxically, be their finest hour.”
So how do we get another referendum? We don’t give up. We don’t let them forget about us. We keep the pressure on. We stay united on this cause. We won’t forget that the Labour party betrayed us on this issue and sided with the Tories. Same goes for the Lib Dems, who in my eyes, are royally fucked in England now.
mancunian-commissar said: Would have loved for Scotland to become independent. Shame it never happened. I would've loved it if you could take The North of England with you, as we have a lot in common with yourselves. Ah well. Seeing as that isn't happening, I just hope we can unite for a better UK, and destroy the fucking Tories!
Not “never happened”, just didn’t “happen yet”. It will happen. The empire is on its last, arthritic, legs. When the Queen eventually pops her mortal coil, there will be a domino effect. Why would Australia, New Zealand, Canada et al want Charles, a largely unpopular, uncharismatic man as their head of state? Their citizens will consider it time for a change. No more empires in the 21st century. It will only be a matter of time before there is change.
Thanks for your comments, the Scots have more in common with the North of England than they do with London, Westminster and the South East. The Tories fucked over us both so we’re united in that issue! Now, with regards to our short-term issues, let’s look at the general election.
What is the North going to do about it? Don’t give in to the fear and intimidation of UKIP for a start. The very first thing they would do is privatise the NHS. Seriously. It’s in their disgusting, pathetic manifesto. Anyway. Can you trust the Labour party? No. Not in its current form. Can you trust the Lib Dems? Hah, they’ll be ruined at the next election for all of their broken promises.
This is where grassroots activism is going to come in to play. I think the North should be inspired by what has happened in Scotland. It was NEVER about hating the English at all, but instead demanding change for our country. This hasn’t happened. But look at the massive turnout! What are the turnout figures of the North in the last election? Somewhere in the thirties, perhaps? Anyway, across the country it’s been fairly low. But, you need to be speaking to people who want change! Speak to the Green party, speak to others. Let’s not turn this into Scotland v England. This is about Us v Them. The working classes v the ruling classes. We have the numbers and we can demand that our MPs start working for us, rather than assuming that we’ll just accept what they do.
Anonymous said: Westminster can make future independence referenda illegal, and British nationalist Labour (for example) would certainly like to. Spain did that, enshrining it in the Spanish constitution, which is why Catalonia has to hold its own one. This is why you need pro-independence parties representing Scotland's interests in negotiations and constitutional settlements.
They can’t make it illegal for Scotland to become independent though. UDI is respected throughout the world. It’s the repercussions and the negotiations afterwards that is hard to win.
Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.
jupitusmercury said: I'm a 1st-generation Australian, with Scottish heritage. Always been surprised voting isn't compulsory (as it is here) - so to see the turnout percentages was really heartening. I was hoping for No - provided further autonomy is given to Holyrood. I understand it must be so disheartening for Yes, but this gives you a chance to take a stand, and prepare Scotland for independence in the future - it didn't happen now, but it will in our lifetime. I think this was the first step of our journey.
Voting should be compulsory. But then, changes to the way MPs are elected to Westminster are not really forthcoming because it suits them the it is just now. But yes, the turnout figures are very heartening. If we maintain the same levels, all that would be required is just under a 200k swing to Yes to achieve victory! That is all! That is by no means unachievable!
The Tories know how loathed they are in Scotland, and I’m fairly certain that everyone knows why, so what did they do? They sent Scottish Labour MPs to do their bidding for them. The Labour are finished in Scotland, FINISHED. I will never vote for them again, and there are thousands out there that feel the same way. This was not a party issue, they should have represented the views of their constituents and let them decide, but they didn’t. Instead, they were quite happy to go along with the Tories, quite happy to say “if you don’t know, vote no”, they were quite happy taking Scottish votes for granted. Go look at the front page of any of the newspapers, go look at Sky and how Ed Miliband is now saying that "there are more important issues than devo-max". Really, Ed? Because I’m fairly certain that there were 1.6 million voters in Scotland that wanted, no, DEMANDED change. And you promised them powers. The oh so vague powers that you claimed to give Scotland. Well…. what are they? Where are they? We don’t know! For MONTHS you went on about Alex Salmond not having a Plan B on currency even though Plan A was to use the pound in a currency union… when you promised us plans… YOU DIDN’T EVEN HAVE A PLAN A FOR SCOTLAND.
So the Labour party will split. Good. Because there are only three parties at this moment in time that are worthwhile voting for as they stood with us on this issue; the SNP, the Greens, and the SSP. Now, I’ve never voted for the SNP or the SSP, but I’ve voted Green before. What will happen to the Labour party? Where will those members go that have now left them? Who will they vote for? There is a vacuum here, and this is where we need to bring ourselves together. Don’t let this issue go, my friends, instead stay active, stay educated and don’t let Westminster rule us. There are people out there that regret voting no… don’t let them regret it for the rest of their lives! Accept that they made a mistake, and let’s turn this 45% into something greater. We’ve accomplished so much in a short period of time, but this is our moment to use social media, to talk to people in cafes, pubs, online or at bus stops. My Yes stickers are still up in my window… I’m not taking them down just yet. I’m thinking of putting up a “45” in my window, as that’s who we are. We can and we will achieve a better Scotland. I believe it!
Anonymous said: The girl that got her flag ripped away had her fingers broken because the flag was coiled in her hand, a friend of hers posted the video on reddit and she's ok, the Herald was the victim of an arson attack and there's multiple videos of attacks on Facebook and there's an Orange Walk tomorrow apparently (well today technically but I haven't sleepy in about 40 hours so yeah) so this is going to get worse, this is probably one of the darkest days in modern Scottish history and it's only the start
We’ll pull through. Let the police do their jobs and stay safe!